Comments on: (rant) Big gurus crap marketing

By: Marc

Marc — Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:24:00 +0000

dude Ben I feel you. People are coming at us trying to get us to promo when they have 3 exit popups on their pages and the last thing i want to do is send my list to a page that the average person would consider a virus. let me know what you got going on man.
Marc

By: claudine osborne

claudine osborne — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:04:02 +0000

hi ben i am a newbie and i was wondering if you had any video showing details how top put all info to be affiliate on clickbank so easy that all i would have to do would be copy your click for every steps of the way ?waiting for your answer soon claudine osborne your fan

By: Tim Godfrey

Tim Godfrey — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:50:43 +0000

I have exact duplicates of those ‘case studies’ in my email inbox too! Funny that!

Point #1 of “So, what does make a successful JV proposal?” is very true…

In fact what I did to first get a great JV partner was to make a REALLY big effort in one of their product launches in the hope that they would return the favor… which they did.

The person in question was Alex Goad… and the product was ‘Four Tier Anilhilation” which I as far as I remember was released last April..

What I did was to convince him to send me a preview (took a bit of persuading mind you!!)..but after he did I went ahead and created a HUGE and highly relevant bonus to
compliment his course. It was virtually an additional product and it literally took me 2 weeks of full time graft to put together.

BUT… in the end, and to a very small 5000(ish) list I managed to make around 100 sales and clinched the number 7 spot on the JV leaderboard (well around #7 .. Ben will know… he’s the “stats” man:) ).. but anyway, as a result of my efforts Alex promoted me and also introduced me to both Michael Rasmussen and Mark Ling who, incidently, we’re the top 2 sellers of ‘Niche Blueprint’.

Also, as the product was heavily promoted by other marketers, all of whom were keeping an eye on the “leaderboard” people recognized my name which made recruting JV partners for Commission Blueprint MUCH easier.

So Make a MASSIVE effort for one of the top names in a particular market and
hopefully the rest will follow..hopefully!

Done this in other niches too… Health and dieting & golf and works most of the time..

Cheers Ben!… c u in errr…. “Clapham” hehe

By: david

david — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:15:17 +0000

Great post. It is time for people to realize that in IM your name is your business and if you can’t stand by your word then your business will suffer.

I was raised that a man is only as good as his word and was taught that if you give your word you keep it no matter what it may cost you.

By: Lyn

Lyn — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:07:05 +0000

As a guru watcher, as I am on so many lists, it’s really interesting… One that got me annoyed very recently was a launch where they invited JV’s and affiliates and refused lots of the smaller fry a link There’s a customer forum, so you could see all the questions about it. But then, right at the end, there was a sudden flurry of all the usual guru suspects writing in panic “hey, have you seen this” and they actually kept the doors open an additional day to keep these over-wealthy over-powerful guys happy, to give them a chance to make some decent money.

These gurus should wake up and realise the cannon-fodder, people like me, get about 20 notifications or more of the launch blurb. They seem to think we have never heard of x product, except through them. It’s not naive, I think it’s arrogant. And I NEVER buy from them. I also heartily dislike the bonus competitions. Often, if it’s something I want, I buy quickly, and then discover a lovely bonus that would have been useful from a chap I would have been happy to buy from a few days afterwards…

What makes me use an affiliate is a quietly written, well reasoned critique. Duplicate emails don’t cut it, neither do the “it’s the best thing since sliced bread”, or I will pay you with a huge bonus.

So, in the end, for me, it’s down to trust. And I have found that affiliates who “promote” nicely, as I just described, also tend to have their own high quality well-produced products. Not a coincidence in my view.

By: admin

admin — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:01:27 +0000

Thanks Ellery. I will have a go tomorrow. You may be correct that that is an error. However, I believe that that line in css is referring to the actual text itself rather than the header. Am prepared to be corrected…Probably should ask David Pankhurst as he designed the abtheme originally…

By: Niche Empire

Niche Empire — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:53:25 +0000

Hi Ben,

The formatting problem is because of your CSS code. Look for this line:

.post,.entrytext { margin: 0 0 40px; text-align: left; }

margin has four components, not 3. The amount of margin starts at the top and goes clockwise.

If you need further help let me know.

Warmest regards,

Ellery

By: admin

admin — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:26:34 +0000

Is fine. Trust me, I have other problem also that you wouldn’t want

By: Bob Lowell

Bob Lowell — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:22:47 +0000

I totally agree with your viewpoint–I only wish I had your problem!

By: admin

admin — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:11:46 +0000

Not quite sure what you mean. I think that my point is that apart from one I have helped them considerably before but never had anything in return.

I know that it may have been a bit ranty, but I also am hoping that it does help people understand exactly how to approach a JV proposal.

Ben